IMO, Honor and Shame are fundamental psychological and even spiritual (if you buy into that) things, and guilt and innocence AS emotional realities is harmful obfustication. Not a harmful obfustication as factual analasys — objective guilt and innocence are real and important things. But emotional guilt and innocence strikes me as a cultural hankerchief that is unconsciously used to try and cover the deeper realities of Honor and Shame. Zesty September 23, 2012 at 6:13 pm I found this interesting: “Subtextual is the idea that his time and pleasures should be sacrificed for the nebulous “good of the family.” Women have already been marketed to this way for years. I continue to be fascinated by this blog and the comments. My hope for both genders, is that the field becomes more level. We’re only now at a point where a great percentage of women have options in their lives, i.e. they can be more than mothers, teachers and secretaries if that’s what they wish. I have those options as a result of feminism. However, I think the pendulum needs to swing back somewhat, in that feminist gains have come at the price of women’s femininity. To me, this only makes sense, as women needed to be more like men [initially] to gain any ground and be taken seriously in overwhelmingly male contexts. Rock Throwing Peasant September 24, 2012 at 1:56 pm Marketers have no difficulty finding young men who purchase cars and video games. https://russian-women.startupdate.nl/ https://russian-women.linkschakel.nl/ https://russian-women.linknavigator.nl/ https://russian-women.startfreak.nl/ https://russian-women.skhor.de/ https://russian-women.surfplezier.nl/ https://russian-women.startway.nl/ https://russian-women.linkactueel.nl/